<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, I can come up with some differences between a flu shot and an SUV, I'll try to respond accordingly:By the logic of the parents in the article, if flu shots are available and I choose against getting one, and then get the flu, I have a right to sue, because it was available . That's just BS.
1. We don't even know if the owner of the SUV knew the safety feature was available.
2. We don't know if the driver knew at the time of purchase the problem of a blind spot when backing up. I test drove my CRV, but y'know, I never thought to test it backing up. Hindsight is 20/20.
3. If a safety feature is optional, it implies it is not a necessity and the vehicle is designed with a certain level of safety. We don't know how many people have died due to blind spots from SUV's vs the standard passenger vehicle. If it is significantly higher, I think there could be a case that such a safety feature is a necessity, not some add on frill. I'm willing to bet the manufacturers of SUVs don't want you to know this information.
The popularity of the SUV is a relatively new thing, and the size of the vehicles has grown over the years. Maybe the safety standards aren't what they should be.
4. By your logic, gae, why don't we just make all safety features optional and leave the automobile manufacturers to design vehicles only that look good and feel good? Make safety belts optional. And air bags. And bumpers. And rear view mirrors. Why have any back window at all if it detracts from the design of the car?
This IS just plain stupid.
Obviously they are responsible for keeping track of their child. But for just for arguments sake, their reasoning still does not hold water.
The article sounds as if the camera/censore feature is an OPTION, not a standard. They had the choice to purchase that option. How is that Nissan's fault?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">McDonalds has gone organic? Who knew?May I tell you how stressful a trip to McDonald's is on a Saturday afternoon?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You're arguing my point again Reason. Too many people don't pay attention to their own children.In other words, the average parent sucks at keeping an eye on their brat every last moment of the day.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Perfect parent? Hardly. But when my son climbed on top of the refrigerator to get to the cookie stash, then fell and put his bottom teeth through his lower lip, I didn't sue Frigidare.I know, I know...you were the perfect parent. You never had a child run off during any single moment you were distracted.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">From the article: "They claim new back-up video cameras or sensors which detect objects behind a vehicle were available, and should have been installed in their SUV."1. We don't even know if the owner of the SUV knew the safety feature was available.
The rest of your protestations are nonsense and simply speak to the idea that someone else should keep us safe.
The parents are idiots. It's tragic that their child is dead, but it's not Nissan's fault.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">And where from that does it say Infiniti offered this safety feature at the point of sale? And if Infiniti did offer the feature, how did they go about doing it?quote:
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1. We don't even know if the owner of the SUV knew the safety feature was available.
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From the article: "They claim new back-up video cameras or sensors which detect objects behind a vehicle were available, and should have been installed in their SUV."
It seems to me that there may be a significant need for the safety feature. If there is you have to wonder why Infiniti simply doesn't include it on their vehicles.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Last time I checked, SUVs were designed for the specific intent of backing up. Yes, gae, I do believe most Infiniti SUVs can be shifted into reverse, and Infiniti expects the buyers of their cars to shift into reverse.Perfect parent? Hardly. But when my son climbed on top of the refrigerator to get to the cookie stash, then fell and put his bottom teeth through his lower lip, I didn't sue Frigidare.
Conversely, I don't believe Frigidaire designed its refrigerators for the purpose of your little monkey to go mountain climbing.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Out of the kindness of my heart, I was buying lunch for homeless children.quote:
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May I tell you how stressful a trip to McDonald's is on a Saturday afternoon?
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McDonalds has gone organic? Who knew?
<font color="#a52a2a" size="1">[ December 09, 2004 07:33 AM: Message edited by: reason ]</font>
The point remains that the Clemens' bought a vehicle without back-up video cameras or sensors and are now suing becasue that feature is available on other vehicles!
That's insane. Let's forget the part that they didn't know where their daughter was.
What gives them the right to sue because they didn't buy something?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Not sure how you can make such judgments from the limited information given in the article.The parents are idiots. It's tragic that their child is dead, but it's not Nissan's fault.
Have you ever driven an Infiniti SUV? Do any of us know the statistics for deaths of people as a result of the blind spot? Is this a problem unique to this particular family, or is it something that has happened a significant number of times with respect to this type of vehicle?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">When I read that, it made me wonder why it is being installed on other vehicles and not the one they bought. Apparently there is a need for this safety feature, and I'd like to know Infiniti's logic behind the selectivity of their decision.Originally posted by gae:
The point remains that the Clemens' bought a vehicle without back-up video cameras or sensors and are now suing becasue that feature is available on other vehicles!
That's insane. Let's forget the part that they didn't know where their daughter was.
What gives them the right to sue because they didn't buy something?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Regardless, if the design of a product results in the deaths of people and the company knows that the product results in the deaths of people and actually could provide the solution to the problem but doesn't, I think there's legitimate room to question the company's decisions.You're arguing my point again Reason. Too many people don't pay attention to their own children.
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